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Squirrel cartoon4/8/2023 Heavens: It was The Simpsons-ain’t it just the way as a millennial? Io9: What your first fandoms in animation, and how did they inform your career path? Heavens: We do love and pay homage to all things popular culture. There’s certainly pop culture touchstones that stand out, like the Kill Bill noise. I also had a really good time with the road trip-it kind of gave me Fury Road, Mad Max vibes. Io9: It’s like such a fun dynamic to see Kiff meld into. Heavens: I think maybe if anything, the show is like “life doesn’t go the way that you think it will.” And it’s a kind of “know thyself” show, where you look at your behavior and what motivated you and you understand yourself a bit better. What was important to you in showing your audience how to navigate life when things don’t go as planned? It’s really cool to show audiences that things aren’t always going to go as you imagine them. I love how Kiff has this really big sense of go-getter adventurer attitude, and a lot of times her imagination plays out scenarios and how she thinks it should go. And we both sat there and just were like: “heheheheheh.” Just the world started showing itself to us from there. And I drew Kiff, which at the time was just like a big light bulb. Smal: We made it to the studio and we sort of clicked on similar kind of tastes in comedy and we had fun chatting about it. And yeah, it was just all things that made us laugh. We had this the sort of kernel of what Kiff was in terms of her character and her personality, and we kind of spun it out from there-we just leaned on all of our favorite people and places, and it’s a very relatable show. Heavens: Thank you! We really just wanted to do a project that we would be filled with joy to make and that we wanted to watch. Can you tell me a bit about the inspiration for the show, and how you all collaborated on this concept? Sabina Graves, io9: I’m excited to chat with you all about Kiff. Best Friends Forever! | Kiff | NEW Series! | Kiff a NEW Cartoon
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